Another raw note dump from the Tuesday morning keynote at NECC09. Updates and corrections to come. It was an oxford-style debate moderated by NPR All Things Considered journalist Robert Siegal.
Dialogue and Debate
“Bricks and mortar schools are detrimental to the future of education”
Audeice poll before debate
for 37
against 63
mike horn up for first – for
schools modeled after facotries. don’t look that different
“learning by definition takes place in a physical place” how we define a school
brick boundaries restricts learning experiences we might other wise provide
people learn the same way, have the same goals, etc. argues agaist
online learning holds the potential to pull from many different learning oppotunities.
research show online learing can work. hybrid and online learning shows great success
limit socialization to limited community – local monopoly
-distance not obstacle anymore
-communitites not deined by distance anymore
-easy to learn from other places, not expensive anymore
-must have the ability to interact with others in a global audience
most americans won’t work in a factory, why school that way
learning happens everywhere
world has changed, schools have not.
brad jupp
us dept of ed – senior advisor – against
-teaching machine – gizmo that made a light go on.
-school are neccesary to get together to learn
-helps community grow
-toss thigns away before we are done with them
-schools are the vessels of the wishes of our democracy.
-hold together our community
-hold the old men like me that play basketball in the gym
-place of access or internet
-center of community
-education is our generations greastest civil rights issue
-cannot leave the house of learning
Gary stager – pepperdine university for
-problem lies with structure of school setup
-nclb = midevil
-we are robbing kids of great learning experiences
-really going jugular
-need to make student focused learning experiences
-give kids some learning responsibility and that can change the relationship of student/teachers
-whiteboards encourage teacher infront of the room
-stop using “gadgets to sdo the same old things
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Cheryl Lemke – against
-ceo metiry group
-not here to support the status quo
-here to support learning for all students
-social capital – reconnect stuentt with local communites as well are global communities
-note one or the other. it is a conmbination that we need to provide our students
-need to redefine school to fit in today’s school
-students are not as self irected as they need to be
-nedd to build the ability to do this. teacher need to change for this
-students need to be conneted to school. acheivement go up research shows this
-distance learning doesn’t have this ability
-misconnections
-research suggest hybrid models work best
-need the briding to global audiences and environmnets and opportunities
-face to face is needed as well
-build capacity for those global connections in school
-need to be connected at home
-need bricks and mortar plus online
marshall thompson – walt whitman hitschool MD – for
-going beyond bricks and mortar
-agrguement against the local place – we are not limited o having these learning experiences in a physical location.
-why does the learning have to happen in a physical space
-no longer limited
-can live in an international connected place
-why do I only have to learn with people at the local level
-educaiton shouldn’t be limited to my local community
-need a global perspective
-need to have a basis for commuity argument
-look through bricks and mortar lense
-b and m doesn’t facilitate that
-don’t want to only learn for 8 hours a day
why does learning have to happen only in shcool
erik bakke – west springfiedl high school – springfield VA – against
-schools are crappy – feels an excitement to come in because of an excitement with learning other people
-we see classrooms are adapting to meets needs of different students
-have classrooms for students of different needs
-coming together in these classrooms create strong connections to local communities
-all studet have one need in common – the need to work as a team – only through local group do we learn this skill
-through dedication of teacher that students gain love of learning and subjects
-take these into the work force
-it is through schools that you learn passions in life
-teachers insipire him to love life and learning
-my thought, do you need that in a b and m building?
gary stager up again – summation
-students don’t learn the same way
-not b and m support learning with diverse group of students
-scares the hell out of him that students don’t have ties to others out side of their small groups – age and of other diverse groups
-problem lies within the bankruptcy of our imagination
cheryl lemke up again – summation
-we need online learning
-doesn’t have to be at the expense of a location
-don’t want fathers schools
-need to reinvent the school
-if not school we will lose our local communiites
-listen carefully to obama about a speech at notre dame
-there is common ground no matter what side you are on
-time to open classroom doors. technology can augment
-need that personal connection locally and globally
audience questions
-dave wells – pre k principal VT
-q to horn – we have a teacher. how do we support teachers as facilitator, whereever teaching akes place?
-a – that is the role of PD
-we send teachers to PD that are lecture based
-need to be more “just in time”
-can’t be top down model
-question fro isteconnects
-q 2 jupp – what will the end of b and m mean for the socialation of students?
-a – if we were to imagine schools away would have to imagine a social space to engage in social learning that schools construct
-urrent social situations aren’t as good, but need to change that, can’t do it without b and m buildings
-flase dilema to think it is one against the other side
-hybrid is the way to go
-quesiton from audience
-jm from PA – for jupp
-ba dn m carry burden the fear of lawsuit whether real or imagined. can b and m break away from this or will the weight crush them
-a – pause and laughter. and another law – needed clarity
-hadn’t thought of it in that manner
-teacher needs to be vigilant
-clear code of conduct
-have to be rave enough to think we can do it without misbehavior
-not arguement from other side
-not really answered that well
Final vote
for 26%
against 74%
very surprising outcome
the question wasn’t phrased correctly
